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B1 · IntermediateUnit 15: Opinions and plansLesson 144 of 200

Before -хаас өмнө, after -сны дараа

Goal: Order actions with converbs.

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1Limba’s diary

LIMBA

Steps to extend the visa

My visa ends before my flight, so I have to extend it one last time. Bat printed the list of steps from the immigration office's website, and we read it together at breakfast, like a recipe: before you fill in the form, make a copy of your passport; after filling in the form, have a photo taken; after paying the fee, keep the receipt.

The order matters. In November I paid before having my photo taken, and I had to come back the next day.

2Dialogue

Бат
Энд алхам алхмаар бичсэн байна. Эхлээд маягт бөглөнө.It's all written here step by step. First you fill in the form.
Limba
Маягт бөглөхөөс өмнө юу хийх вэ?What do I do before filling in the form?
Бат
Паспортынхаа хуулбарыг ав. Маягт бөглөхөд хэрэгтэй.Make a copy of your passport. You need it to fill in the form.
Limba
Маягт бөглөсний дараа?And after filling in the form?
Бат
Зураг авахуулна. Зургаа авахуулсны дараа хураамж төлнө.You have your photo taken. After having your photo taken, you pay the fee.
Limba
Өнгөрсөн удаа би зураг авахуулахаас өмнө мөнгөө төлчихсөн. Тэгээд маргааш нь дахин ирсэн.Last time I paid before having my photo taken. Then I had to come back the next day.
Бат
Тийм учраас дарааллаа сайн санаарай.That's why you should remember the order well.
Ажилтан
Сайн байна уу? Маягтаа бөглөсөн үү?Hello. Have you filled in your form?
Limba
Бөглөсөн. Маягт бөглөхөөс өмнө паспортынхаа хуулбарыг авсан.Yes. Before filling it in, I made a copy of my passport.
Ажилтан
Сайн. Хураамж төлсний дараа баримтаа надад үзүүлээрэй.Good. After paying the fee, show me your receipt.
Limba
Ойлголоо. Виз хэзээ бэлэн болох вэ?Understood. When will the visa be ready?
Ажилтан
Таван ажлын өдрийн дараа бэлэн болно.It will be ready in five working days.
Limba
Баярлалаа. Тэгвэл би ирэх долоо хоногт ирье.Thank you. Then I'll come next week.

3Words in this lesson

MongolianEnglish
визvisa
сунгахto extend; визээ сунгах: to extend one's visa
маягтform (to fill in)
бөглөхto fill in
хуулбарcopy
хураамжfee
баримтreceipt; document
алхам алхмаарstep by step
дараалалorder, sequence
санахto remember
ажлын өдөрworking day
өнгөрсөн удааlast time

4Grammar and explanations

Before and after an action

In lesson 77 you put өмнө (before) and дараа (after) behind a noun in the genitive: хоолны өмнө, хичээлийн дараа. To put them behind a whole action, Mongolian turns the verb into a participle and gives it a case.

MeaningFormExample
before doing–х + ablative + өмнөбөглөхөөс өмнө
after doing–сан + genitive + дараабөглөсний дараа

–хаас өмнө: "before doing"

The –х form takes the ablative –аас / –оос / –ээс / –өөс, then өмнө.

Маягт бөглөхөөс өмнө хуулбар ав.form fill-PART-ABL before copy take.IMP"Before filling in the form, make a copy."
Явахаас өмнө утасдаарай."Call before you leave."
VerbBefore doing it
явахявахаас өмнө
орохорохоос өмнө
ирэхирэхээс өмнө
бөглөхбөглөхөөс өмнө

You will also hear –хын өмнө, with the genitive: ажилдаа явахын өмнө (before going to work). Both are correct.

–сны дараа: "after doing"

The –сан participle takes the genitive. Its short vowel drops, so –сан with –ы gives –сны, and –сэн or –сөн with –ий gives –сний.

Хураамж төлсний дараа баримтаа аваарай.fee pay-PAST-GEN after receipt-REFL take-IMP"After paying the fee, take your receipt."
VerbAfter doing it
авахуулахавахуулсны дараа
орохорсны дараа
ирэхирсний дараа
төлөхтөлсний дараа

A noun or a verb?

With a noun, өмнө and дараа follow the genitive, as in lesson 77. With a verb, use the forms of this lesson.

хоолны өмнө"before the meal"
хоол идэхээс өмнө"before eating"
хичээлийн дараа"after the lesson"
хичээл тарсны дараа"after classes are over"

The order of the sentence

The "before" or "after" part comes first, and the main action closes the sentence, as always. The subject can stand at the very start:

Би хоол идсний дараа гэртээ харьсан."After eating, I went home."
Монголд ирэхээс өмнө би Канадад амьдарч байсан."Before coming to Mongolia, I lived in Canada."

Go deeper in the grammar guide: Mongolian postpositions · Mongolian time expressions · Mongolian converbs

5Good to know

Mongolian offices love paperwork, and one step done in the wrong order can cost you a day. Before you go to any office, ask Ямар бичиг баримт хэрэгтэй вэ? ("What documents are needed?"). Bring copies of everything, and keep every receipt, баримт, until the whole process is finished.

6Exercises

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  1. "before filling in the form"
  2. "after paying the fee"
  3. The "before doing" form of орох is…
  4. The "after doing" form of ирэх is…
  5. Явахаас өмнө утасдаарай. means…
  6. What must Limba do before filling in the form?
  7. What went wrong last time?
  8. Хураамж төлсний дараа баримтаа надад үзүүлээрэй. means…
  9. When will the visa be ready?
  10. Before өмнө, a noun takes the genitive (хоолны өмнө). A verb in –хаас өмнө takes…

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Write it yourself

Write your answer on paper or in your head first, then reveal the model answer.

  1. Translate: "Before leaving, call me."
    Show answerЯвахаас өмнө над руу залгаарай.
  2. Translate: "After eating, I went home."
    Show answerБи хоол идсний дараа гэртээ харьсан.
  3. Join with –сны дараа: Би маягт бөглөсөн. Тэгээд зураг авахуулсан.
    Show answerБи маягт бөглөсний дараа зураг авахуулсан.
  4. Say that you paid before having your photo taken.
    Show answerБи зураг авахуулахаас өмнө мөнгө төлсөн.
  5. Translate: "Before coming to Mongolia, I lived in Canada."
    Show answerМонголд ирэхээс өмнө би Канадад амьдарч байсан.

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Unit 15: Opinions and plans B1

  1. 141I think that…
  2. 142I agree, I disagree
  3. 143Future plans: -на, -х гэж байна
  4. 144Before -хаас өмнө, after -сны дараа
  5. 145If only / unreal conditions
  6. 146Relative clauses with cases
  7. 147Every, each, any
  8. 148Connecting ideas
  9. 149Proverbs I
  10. 150B1 test
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